Neox

All of those that you mentioned do exactly the same things: belay with single or double ropes, rappel on single or double ropes, and "guide mode" belay from the top anchor. They're all great, so you could pick any of them and be fine. Alternatively you could look into getting an assisted belay devic

I remember that either HowNOT2, or Hard Is Easy asked Petzl directly why it's not included in the manual for Neox, and is it bad and they replied that it's fine to use it, but they didn't put it there "because it's not needed, thanks to the pulley".

the only main difference is that the Neox has a spinning wheel that makes it easier to lead belay Also makes misuse way more dangerous in many cases. Most assisted belay devices have a slight chance of locking up even if you didn't hold the brake rope (in no circumstance you should let go of the bra

Personally, I prefer autotube-style devices (ATC Pilot, Mega Jul, Smart etc.) over the Grigri. The position for holding the device open is far more intuitive and also makes it easier to control the brake strand at the same time. I started with a Giga Jul (it's unfortunately very picky with ropes and

Get a petzl neox. It'll allow you to belay the same way you're used to with the ATC, with the added benefit of good assisted belaying.

Think of the mechanism for a second (it's basically the same in both Grigri and Neox), what would cause it to trigger if the brake strand isn't being loaded during a fall? In Grigri it's friction inside the mechanism that can trigger it but they've practically removed that option with the Neox as th

Just to validate the perspective, from the technical notice that petzl publishes: If the belayer does not hold the brake side of the rope, the rope tension is insufficient to raise the wheel and initiate blocking. The GriGri notice is slightly different. If the belayer does not hold the brake side o

Point to where I say the critiques of the vergo or tube devices are mechanical? I highlighted user habits with regard to hand and body placement. The vergo is designed for you to stand parallel with the wall, it is users who choose not to. All of the devices are designed for you to control the brake

There’s a loud rattle on my new Neox. I called Petzl and they grabbed one and said theirs rattles too. I tested it per the manual and it works fine. I just don’t like it. I have other gri Gris a checked them; they do not rattle as much as my new Neox.

Skip Petzl’s products. Better camming products exist (Trango Vergo or Edelrid Pinch), so there’s no reason to consider a grigri family. Similarly, if the goal of the Neox is “tube style” simplicity, get a tube. Many brands offer semi auto locking (same class as Petzl’s products) without moving parts