Gen 2

I've had the DF64 gen 2 for a few years (original burrs) and not had any issues with clogging whatsoever. I do spritz the beans before grinding which I feel also helps reduce static/retention, and pump the bellows lightly while grinding to prevent retention from building up. I also pump the bellows

Df64 gen 2 is the go. Comes with metal cup already. Barely any retention with the bellows. Doesn’t make a mess at all with new electrode setup. No need to spritz beans unless you’re maybe doing pour over grind.

Mazzer Philos. It’s fricken amazing. Almost zero retention. Had a DF64 Gen 2 but it clogged all the time.

Kommt glaube ich sehr auf deine Bohnen an. Je öfter der Wechsel und je heller die Röstung umso mehr Probleme wirst du mit dem SSGP bekommen. Ich meine der SSGP ist auch relativ unkonstant in den Bezügen, aber das wirst du ja eher beurteilen können. Die DF hat natürlich im Verhältnis quasi null Totra

I keep seeing these posts about clogging or static on the 54. I've got a df64 gen 2, do these have similar issues? I haven't noticed any clogging, and the bellows help with reducing retained grounds. Is this an option OP?

It clogs easily: https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1qka94q/frustrations_with_df64_gen_2/ https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1rtlkw4/df64_gen2_ground_coffee_gets_stuck_next_to_burrs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DF64/comments/1jrtg0j/rettention_and_clogging_df64_gen_2_only_3_weeks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/

df64 gen 2, same experience and never RDT’ed, I think the RDT is causing unnecessary moisture inside hence the coffeegrounds build-up

I have loved my df64 gen 2 regardless of what everyone else says. No retention no fuss just align the burrs and it’s been a workhorse daily for like 2 years. It’s pretty cheap all things considered.

If your long-term plan is the Zerno Z1, I’d think of the 064S as a “bridge grinder” rather than a final upgrade. The main question is: what exactly is making you hate the DF64 Gen 2? If it’s workflow, retention, mess, noise, or just the general daily experience, then the 064S may make sense. Timemor

It's been a few weeks since your post so not sure what you ended up doing, but ​I felt your pain. I had a similar experience with constant clogging on my DF64 Gen 2 (even with a hot start and slow feeding), and eventually, the frustration just outweighed the cost of upgrading. The last straw was wak