Dream PID

This is the one advice, OP, that you should take to heart. Start with a good grinder, grind your beans fresh. Tapos kahit entry level espresso machine, like say a Delonghi Dedica, Ascaso Dream, or a Bambino Plus, okay na yun. Makakapag produce na yun ng good enough espresso kung maganda na yung grin

For a thermoblock only machine the next step up outside of Breville is Ascaso Dream One but those are around 1.5k in the US

I haven't seen the version without the PID in the name. Even the cheaper Ascaso Dream has a PID. For that price, an espresso machine without a PID is not worth it IMO

The Ascaso Dream is the best value. Get the Steel if you want a larger water reservoir and drip tray etc. I bought the H64 specifically because it's pretty quiet (just had a baby) and grinds come out fluffy and no need for RDT but honestly is not the best value compared to the DFs and Timecores etc.

Cool, yeah, I just went through info again and you're absoltuely correct, it does indeed have a "real" PID. Glad to hear my choice validated. :D The Ascaso looks like a great machine as well, but I got the Stone for hundreds less than the Steel PID and $600 less than the Dream PID!

When the difference between the two is $600 (Dream One vs Dream PID), then it becomes a real question. Luckily I found a machine that doesn't have that kind of upcharge, which IMO is insane given that the additional circuit obv doesn't cost that much to make. Ascaso must have insane margins on the P

My ascaso dream pid as well heats up so fast I've never found myself wishing I had a dual boiler. They're good I guess if you are making 8+ lattes for a dinner party but even then.. I just dump steam out the group head and temperature falls fast.

Ich bin von einer Lelit PL41TEM gerade auf eine Ascaso Dreame PID gewechselt. Generell bin ich Fan von der Marke. Sie stellen sehr schicke & moderne Thermoblock Geräte. Lelit hat ca. 350 gekostet und war Nachfolger meiner Dedica und die Dream ca. ~1000€ (was aber ein ziemlich gutes angebot war)

Late reply but It's a really good machine. Only downsides are taking long to heat up for steam. Drip tray is small and the discharge pipe that ypu habe to move back and forth when emptying the drip tray. Also price is crazy, for that price you'll get a dual boiler Lelit Elizabeth. So only reason to

The Go is the only Profitec I've seen in that budget. I had been torn between the Ascaso Dream, Lelit Victoria, and Profitec Pro myself. Ended up saving a few hundred by going with the Elizabeth, and I love everything about it except the hoses they chose to pump water from the tank. It's a kind of s