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Black Diamond
ATC
25 positive 0 neutral 8 negative
Based on 33 Reddit mentions
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Why two belay devices? Skip the ATC, it’s antiquated, especially for gym climbing. Skip both carabiners, get a D shaped locker for the Grigri or Neox. Black Diamond has produced faulty avalanche beacons which have killed people, and BD put off issuing recalls - consider whether you want to trust and
...0bsidian in r/ClimbingGear
January 13, 2026 2:04 PM
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Weekly Question Thread (aka Friday New Climber Thread). ALL QUESTIONS GO HERE
The ATC is ancient technology and you should belay with an assisted braking device. Petzl Grigri, Edelrid Pinch, Black Diamond ATC Pilot, Mammut Smart, Edelrid Giga Jul.... these are all devices that are objectively better for belaying.
Thirtysevenintwenty5 in r/climbing
June 5, 2025 4:06 PM
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