Silvia

Profitec GO is basically the updated Silvia Rancilio should have made years ago

That looks like a Silvia V1, so that seems really expensive to me, if it isn’t because you want that specific model. Personally I’d skip it, unless you can fix any issues with it yourself and you’re ready to sink the money into it.

Rancilio Silvia. Would not recommend. Finicky as stock, either need to faff around with temp surfing or go extra $200 for PID and whatnot. Steam wand o-ring gave up within a year, became rusty on the "stainless steel" base in 5 years despite me doing all the maintenance described in the manual. Ther

Ya I get it. I used to have a rancilio Silvia. Sold it back when secondary market was p cheap for espresso bc I got an e61 la scala butterfly bc I wanted to get into more steamed drinks. Now every day I regret it bc lol. Used Silvias are a few hundred more used now, and I really only want straight e

Just so you know, I have downgraded from a rancilio silvia to a breville bambino. I genuinely think bambino is better. For less than half the price.

Shame we can’t get Rancilio Silvia’s for this price in America :<

For the price I bought it originally at $850 I would. Now it’s $1200. It’s not better than Rancilio Silvia with PID installed for $200 less IMO.

I'd check if the Gaggia has aluminium boiler or the teflon coated version, if you don't know about, check the boiler gate issue. If it's aluminium, I'd choose a Gaggia. I have both by the way. This Rancilio Silvia is a V1, probably around 20 years old. If not refurbished, it has the boiler with heat

both are same machines. 785 => 685 + 2 more accesories. and they both have bad steam wand. like super bad and tricky to work with. dont get either. I bought rancilio Silvia wand from amazon, its easily available. but its not worth going the upgrade if you are buying one right now. its very difficult

Si te interesa calibrar bien el espresso, creo que la mejor opción sería tener máquina y molinillo por separado. Además, si lo vas a destinar a espresso te recomendaría que veas el Encore ESP que está más optimizado para eso (y también se puede usar para filtrados), aunque no sé qué tanta diferencia