Apex v2

Have had both. Returned the Owl. The Infuser is a bit of a hidden gem and, IMHO, is probably the best-bang-for-the-buck espresso machine out there. I attribute this to it's properly implemented manual pre-infusion. Meaning, it maintains good flow rate but limits pressure (3bar), for an arbitrary len

Gemilai G3007z, aka: Mii Coffee Apex V2, Turin Legato V2 - most interesting variant for now, for me. Chinese 58mm standard brew group, 550ml stainless boiler, separate thermoblock for steam, opv setting screw-knob, flow rate screw setting, PID for boiler and thermoblock, automatic buttons. Main ques

I have a Breville and it's not ideal, but I don't use the steam wand ever. Use a French Press or other methods to froth. Massively less cleanup/machine maintainence as well.Any machine will work that has a PID, since you are just looking at an extraction device. Something like a basic Mii Coffee Ape

If you're going to keep the Jura around, you should get a setup like your previous one. Having a built in grinder is more of a limitation than a feature. You just have to worry about heat up time and getting comfortable with the espresso making routine. A nice coffee station, with everything you nee