ThinkPad P17 Gen 2

I recently came to that same conclusion on 11850h, im not willing to risk it on ultra series just yet, it elevates costs too much and its also not mature enough to know how it interacts with audio production, im not willing to be no beta testing user for it. I may go on the 13700h way, from like a m

If the laptop is going to be your main daily driver, I'd recommend a certified-refurbished P-Series ThinkPad (example: P14, P15, P16, P17) purchased directly from Lenovo. You can search 'ThinkPad P series' on Wikipedia to see a detailed listing of internal & external features on all recent models to