Mammut
Smart 2.0
$49.95
Beal
Based on 20 Reddit mentions
$91.19
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Gri gri will be more flexible in the future, I bought a device specifically for single pitch sport (Beal birdie) and wish I just got a gri gri cause it allows for further development of skills.
Str1ct7yB477r00m in r/ClimbingGear
November 30, 2025 4:14 AM
6
My argument would be the assisted devices, gri gri, neox, Beal birdie , ect. all have more of a freeze up issue. If the device freezes up and doesn’t cam you’re out of luck. All tube style devices will ice up sure but they wont freeze up to the point it might not work It’s all a choice of acceptable
...aweejeezzrick in r/iceclimbing
March 18, 2025 4:11 PM
13
a lot of rope twisting can be avoid by keeping the rope path in one plane. all grigri style belay devices i know apply this improvement except for the grigri itself for unknown reasons. they are the edelrid pinch, the camp matik, the mad rock lifeguard, and the beal birdie.
max9265 in r/ClimbingGear
May 31, 2025 11:14 PM
4
I would recommend getting a low use used standard then. Don't be afraid to get them at a discount or lightly used. They are solid devices that are easily inspectable. If you're not comfortable with that, buy new. Now it is it my opinion that the alternate assisted brake devices (Beal Birdie, ect) ar
...ollieollieoxendale in r/ClimbingGear
November 20, 2025 4:14 PM
2
I have a beal birdie and absolutely live it, definitely a solid deal if you want a cam device
ak-fuckery in r/ClimbingGear
May 14, 2025 1:11 AM
2
The Beal Birdie is a device that obviously emulates the design principles of the Grigri, but it doesn’t differentiate itself in ways that are actually useful. It just looks different and feels clunkier.
Spiralofourdiv in r/climbergirls
March 11, 2026 8:53 PM
1
I like arguing on the internet and I like belay devices. You see tons of people saying shit like they won't let people belay them with other belay devices like the Smart or Pilot or Jul or whatever Based. Indoors I am a pilot user predominantly and as a result I am MUCH more skeptical of a prospecti
...sheepborg in r/climbing
March 18, 2025 3:12 PM
3
Just seems like they were designed to change the game, and to try to become the new standard, since the community has been stuck on the grigri for going on three decades. Problem with that is the game doesn't need to be changed, anything the grigri needed petzl came along and changed in the next ite
...murderoustoast in r/ClimbingGear
November 4, 2025 4:01 AM
1
Grigri for assisted braking. There are some devices that are like 10% better than a grigri in certain aspects but for all-around versatility, safety, and quality control they're the standard for a reason. With that said, ABD's from reputable manufacturers are good and safe too (e.g. Trango Vergo, Be
...saltytarheel in r/climbing
February 18, 2026 4:07 PM
1
From using the Lifeguard and the Beal thing, I think not leaving any slack inbetween the brake hand and the device makes it easier. Edit: Beal Birdie
SkilllessBeast in r/ClimbingGear
April 8, 2025 8:10 PM
1