Encore

Nice, but honestly the results look heavily biased towards what is common, available for a long time and affordable (most posts). E.g. a Baratza Encore really should not be at the top of a pour-over, light roast or multi purpose grinder list.

Baratza Encore or Baratza Encore ESP? the Baratza Encore can't grind fine enough for espresso

Also have Baratza Encore, I have never found it to be an acceptable grinder, I have switched to an Eurkia grinder, stepless, much better results. I know some Baratza fans will down vote this, however Baratza Encore was never an espresso grinder. I still use my Baratza for my chemex setup, which work

Baratza Encore Esp can do the job but I moved on from it quickly. If you can afford to spend more, a nice grinder will reward you.

I love my flat burr Ode grinder for pour over. Huge upgrade over my Baratza encore. For espresso I would be eyeing the Niche Zero personally

I have no doubt that the 3 flat-burr and 3 conical grinders studied indeed are quite excellent. But burrs and small changes in them, from what I have gathered in this subreddit, can be dramatically different and cause dramatic flavor profile differences. And this study is asking that a universe of o

Seems hard to argue against the Gaggia classic out of the box other than possibly the lack of PID. I was previously sold on a baratza encore/esp but looking on here, I've seen some people talk about clogging when trying to go really fine. Not sure how common that actually is, or just user error.

I would add: as with the original Encore ESP and Encore, Baratza needs to design a good portafilter holder for the grinder. Again, so easy to do (e.g. start with the current and simply fix the easily-noted issues)--I wish that Baratza would do so (people here even have posted efforts in this regard,

LOL, a Baratza Encore is inadequate for espresso, full stop, so it's not a valid comparison (the term "completely disingenuous" comes to mind). I have one, it's great for drop or press, but useless for espresso. I'm not a hoffman fan, he's ok if you're a beginner but that's about it. I'll stick with