
Edelrid
CA$140.77

Black Diamond
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IMO, everyone should learn on a non-assisted device first to build strong brake-hand-always-on habits, and then if assisted braking is desired, get a Grigri because it's more or less the standard ABD. I started on a BD ATC-XP, which worked very well. I would recommend a two-lane device, and to get a
...ottermupps in r/ClimbingGear
October 14, 2025 at 9:26 p.m.
10
Oh my God, I had this bullshit happen in real life. I was ice climbing (well, top-roping in the Ouray Ice Park) with my wife belaying me. Long story short, some dude walks by and accuses her of having an unsafe belay. In reality, she was properly using a BD ATC, but he insisted BD stopped selling th
...3_pac in r/Mountaineering
May 15, 2025 at 5:17 a.m.
24
I stick to screwlocks for basically all my carabiners (save for a couple small wiregates I have for clipping shoes/chalk to my harness). For a belay device, assuming it's an ATC style, get a round stock carabiner - ie it looks like it's made of a cylinder of metal instead of the flattened profile th
...ottermupps in r/ClimbingGear
October 22, 2025 at 8:06 p.m.
6
I reread you post and just wanted to add one little bit of rappelling advice. Generally, when rappelling into water, you will want to NOT use a friction hitch backup. Especially if it's moving water or if don't know how deep it is. Imagine floating in the cold water of Mystery spring trying to untie
...Sunny-Nebula in r/canyoneering
March 17, 2025 at 9:46 a.m.
3
Huh! TIL! My black diamond ATC-XP is much easier than my petzel grigri was
Candid-Ability-9570 in r/climbergirls
January 23, 2026 at 10:52 p.m.
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