Dream PID

My ascaso dream pid does not have that heat up time. Thermocoil is definitely contentious but I'm definitely happy with the heat up time and the PID.

I haven't seen the version without the PID in the name. Even the cheaper Ascaso Dream has a PID. For that price, an espresso machine without a PID is not worth it IMO

Cool, yeah, I just went through info again and you're absoltuely correct, it does indeed have a "real" PID. Glad to hear my choice validated. :D The Ascaso looks like a great machine as well, but I got the Stone for hundreds less than the Steel PID and $600 less than the Dream PID!

My ascaso dream pid as well heats up so fast I've never found myself wishing I had a dual boiler. They're good I guess if you are making 8+ lattes for a dinner party but even then.. I just dump steam out the group head and temperature falls fast.

Ich bin von einer Lelit PL41TEM gerade auf eine Ascaso Dreame PID gewechselt. Generell bin ich Fan von der Marke. Sie stellen sehr schicke & moderne Thermoblock Geräte. Lelit hat ca. 350 gekostet und war Nachfolger meiner Dedica und die Dream ca. ~1000€ (was aber ein ziemlich gutes angebot war)

The Ascaso Dream machines are very reliable and consistent. I got my first in 2007, and have used it almost daily. I've only replaced some of the rubber parts (gaskets, o-rings) just to see if I could do it. I have been buying them and refurbishing them as a hobby for the last few years since my ret